[ASAP] Actions to Take as a Parish
carole sergent
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Thu Dec 3 14:35:12 CST 2015
Timothy told me this was not so - I asked him directly if any money would be taken away from our Church - and he said no…..
> On Dec 3, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Denise Bentley <ddbentley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Also, please consider that a reduction of your pledge will be felt by programs at your parish.
> Let's look at loving ways that we can more directly voice our disagreement.
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> Subject: Re: [ASAP] Actions to Take as a Parish
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> My understanding of the money that goes to the diocese is that a set percentage of our overall budget goes to the diocese and there isn't a choice with that. A reduction of the pledge by 10% will be a symbolic act--the money that goes to the diocese is like a tax, it is based on our overall budget and there is little to do to negotiate the amount.
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> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:11 AM, carole sergent via ASAP <asap at episcopallists.com <mailto:asap at episcopallists.com>> wrote:
> So well written and right on. I have already made my pledge and have already asked Timothy to be sure none goes to diocese. And I will reduce it by 10%. Only since I was assured all the rest of it will remain at ccc. I think his hands are tied. I truly believe he feels like we all do. I am for any action you all agree on. This is simply wrong. Carole
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> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Gibson Prichard via ASAP <asap at episcopallists.com <mailto:asap at episcopallists.com>> wrote:
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>> I just had a conversation with my father about possible actions and a course of direction for our parish in response to the bishop's position on gay marriage. In the context of talking about withholding a portion of a pledge or requesting that money not be sent to the diocese, it was suggested that perhaps a more Direct course of action is to have the vestry request the bishop to permit gay marriage in our parish or seek alternative episcopal oversight by another bishop. There is a well established route for a parish to seek alternative episcopal oversight known as AEO which would permit our parish to affiliate with another bishop. The bishop could be in Kentucky or any other diocese. AEO has been most commonly used by conservative parishes seeking not to affiliate with their bishops over this issue and instead affiliate with more conservative bishops like Bauerschmidt or Quincy Illinois. Certainly if a cathedral was to request AEO to another diocese that would be a huge blow to the Diocese of Tennessee.
>> One of the other things my father suggested was to use the term "right side of history." Or "do the right thing." Everyone knows that celebrating gay marriage and permitting gay marriage is the right thing. Why are we talking about doing the wrong thing as a diocese and a parish?
>> I don't have any sense whether our vestry feels strongly enough about the matter or whether our clergy would back them up but a vestry resolution and thus a parish request for the ability to have same-sex marriage is in our parish would be the most direct course of action to take.
>> On the subject of our pledge, I'm more concerned about resolving the issue in front of us and not to turn in my pledge by December 13. It seems to me that we need to resolve the issues at hand and come to an understanding of how to do the right thing. The US Supreme Court and the national Episcopal church have spoken: gay marriage is the law of the land. Why can't our parish be on the right side of history rather than the wrong?
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