[ASAP] Actions to Take as a Parish

[Denise Bentley]

Great, Carole.  That's good to know. Thanks for confirming that for us.

Denise

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:35 PM, carole sergent <carolesergent at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Timothy told me this was not so - I asked him directly if any money would
> be taken away from our Church - and he said no…..
>
> On Dec 3, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Denise Bentley <ddbentley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also, please consider that a reduction of your pledge will be felt by
> programs at your parish.
> Let's look at loving ways that we can more directly voice our
> disagreement.
>
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network.
> *From: *Kristine LaLonde via ASAP
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:09 AM
> *To: *carole sergent
> *Reply To: *Kristine LaLonde
> *Cc: *Michael Hasty; asap at episcopallists.com
> *Subject: *Re: [ASAP] Actions to Take as a Parish
>
> My understanding of the money that goes to the diocese is that a set
> percentage of our overall budget goes to the diocese and there isn't a
> choice with that.  A reduction of the pledge by 10% will be a symbolic
> act--the money that goes to the diocese is like a tax, it is based on our
> overall budget and there is little to do to negotiate the amount.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:11 AM, carole sergent via ASAP <
> asap at episcopallists.com> wrote:
>
>> So well written and right on. I have already made my pledge and have
>> already asked Timothy to be sure none goes to diocese.  And I will reduce
>> it by 10%.  Only since I was assured all the rest of it will remain at
>> ccc.  I think his hands are tied. I truly believe he feels like we all do.
>> I am for any action you all agree on. This is simply wrong.    Carole
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Gibson Prichard via ASAP <
>> asap at episcopallists.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just had a conversation with my father about possible actions and a
>> course of direction for our parish in response to the bishop's position on
>> gay marriage. In the context of talking about withholding a portion of a
>> pledge or requesting that money not be sent to the diocese, it was
>> suggested that perhaps a more Direct course of action is to have the vestry
>> request the bishop to permit gay marriage in our parish or seek alternative
>> episcopal oversight by another bishop. There is a well established route
>> for a parish to seek alternative episcopal oversight known as AEO which
>> would permit our parish to affiliate with another bishop. The bishop could
>> be in Kentucky or any other diocese. AEO has been most commonly used by
>> conservative parishes seeking not to affiliate with their bishops over this
>> issue and instead affiliate with more conservative bishops like
>> Bauerschmidt or Quincy Illinois. Certainly if a cathedral was to request
>> AEO to another diocese that would be a huge blow to the Diocese of
>> Tennessee.
>> One of the other things my father suggested was to use the term "right
>> side of history." Or "do the right thing." Everyone knows that celebrating
>> gay marriage and permitting gay marriage is the right thing. Why are we
>> talking about doing the wrong thing as a diocese and a parish?
>> I don't have any sense whether our vestry feels strongly enough about the
>> matter or whether our clergy would back them up but a vestry resolution and
>> thus a parish request for the ability to have same-sex marriage is in our
>> parish would be the most direct course of action to take.
>> On the subject of our pledge, I'm more concerned about resolving the
>> issue in front of us and not to turn in my pledge by December 13. It seems
>> to me that we need to resolve the issues at hand and come to an
>> understanding of how to do the right thing. The US Supreme Court and the
>> national Episcopal church have spoken: gay marriage is the law of the land.
>> Why can't our parish be on the right side of history rather than the wrong?
>>
>> Gibson
>>
>>
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>> Gibson Prichard
>> Nashville, TN
>> gibson at prichard.tv
>>
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